How many Medina Muslims are there in Australia? What is the cost of monitoring them? By Alan Moran.
Albanese is desperate not to antagonize his Muslim voters:
Some of its most active supporters are vociferously anti-Israel, and key politicians have carefully nurtured and are dependent upon the Muslim vote.
Moreover, they would not wish to see further light shone on the 3000 Palestinian visas granted — far more than in the rest of the world combined — with no real vetting of the recipients. Hence, the reluctance to call a Royal Commission or to instigate public inquiries into the Bondi murders. …
How many Medina Muslims are there in Australia?
In [his later period in Medina, Mohammed] called for the killing of non-Muslims or, at best, treating those who refused to convert as inferior citizens while prescribing death for the apostasy of any Muslim renouncing the faith. …
According to former ASIO director general Mike Burgess, out of the Muslims living in Australia, now totalling about one million, only 0.01 per cent (i.e. 1000) can be considered potentially dangerous to the community.
This quantification of what might be called the Medina Muslims’ numbers is at odds with that of Raymond Ibrahim, an American historian specialising in the Middle East. Dr Ibrahim claims 10 per cent is the lowest credible estimate of Muslims calling for violent jihad. In Australia’s context, that would mean 100,000.
Another estimate is that 2,000 AFP officers are monitoring around 25 people each, which would put the list at 50,000. Neither of the Bondi Beach killers was said to be on any watch list.
One thousand people living in Australia following a religion that calls for rejection of the current legal system and death to unbelievers is disturbing; 100,000 creates immense problems.
Must we permanently monitor them? At what cost?
If the watch list were expanded to the 100,000 … and if it were better resourced (as the Royal Commission will surely demand), we could quite easily be looking at a vast increase in staffing.
Grok reports that intelligence agencies like MI5 typically require teams of 12–20 officers per high-priority suspect and at least one for each low-risk target. All else aside, servicing this requires a colossal resource requirement — perhaps 100,000 people (considerably in excess of the number of serving Defence personnel) at an annual cost of over $60 billion. …
Letting them stew in their own enclaves is cheaper, but only in the short term:
It is doubtful that any non-Muslim Australians (and few Muslims) would want to see the proliferation of no-go areas that are evident in France, where Muslims comprise a growing 10% of the population or in Belgium and Germany, which also have high Muslim populations.
Poland (0.1% Muslim) and Hungary (and arguably the US) have decided that the costs in terms of social tensions and finances outweigh the benefits of having significant increases in their Muslim populations. …
At the very least, future policy must surely require rigorous testing of immigrant applicants to ensure they can seamlessly integrate, sifting out the Medina Muslims.
Revisiting the background and current beliefs of those immigrants who are residents, or even citizens, would be a further step. Expulsion would need to be an option for those open to sectarian violence.
A further issue is how to handle those Muslims (probably over 300,000, excluding young children) who were born here, especially since there is evidence that they often are more inclined to extreme views than their parents.
There is no good ending. Our ruling class made disastrous decisions in the last 50 years, decisions that were never put to a vote or endorsed by most Australians.