Cultural whiteness versus ethnic whiteness. By the Feral Historian.
Being white isn’t really a question of color. It’s a whole mental outlook.
Cultural whiteness:
We see this idea from the other side with recent talk about dismantling whiteness and white supremacy. “White” not simply as a collection of ethnic groups native to Europe, but as a cultural foundation of Western civilization. It is essentially in part that social cohesion, which is often called high trust society, that general respect for people and their property.
While it’s certainly not been a universal and is generally in decline, it’s been widespread enough in the west that it was considered normal. The high trust society is one of the core social technologies of Western civilization. It’s also a prerequisite for democratic government that isn’t just big group dominance. …
Traditionally, one of the great strengths of the West has been its ability to absorb people from other civilizations, turning them white, so to speak, in keeping with this concept of white as a mental outlook. People from anywhere could become Roman or French or American by adopting the culture. Over the course of a generation or two, being part of those cultures and societies was not a
fundamentally ethnic distinction.Attacks on whiteness then are attacks on this western idea of culture over blood.

And that’s ultimately what this story [the Camp of the Saints] is about. Less the elimination of the white race than the destruction of that cultural foundation that serves as the scaffolding for democracy, for industrial civilization, advanced science, and progressive politics. Including that strain of progressivism that’s fixated on destroying the foundation that makes its own existence possible. …
Two distinct forms of “whiteness”:
You are probably having the same reaction as most people that casually pick up the book, assuming that that bit about how many will be white is referring purely to race. But if we look at it in terms of what the Hamadura character explains most clearly, though it shows up at a few other points in this book, it says something quite different.
The two things coexist in this story. Cultural whiteness and ethnic whiteness. Just so that we can distinguish here. Two distinct and separate concepts.
Ethnic whiteness:
[In the book] Many of the new regime mean it in explicitly ethnic terms. For example, the Paris Multi-racial Commune, a collection of communists, race-baiting loudmouths, and immigrant activists styling themselves as a new government, are united by their fixation on destroying the native French.
In one instance, a self-loathing French woman is speaking of her campaign to breed out the native population. Only a white woman can have a white baby. Let her choose not to conceive one. Let her choose only non-white mates. And the genetic results aren’t long and coming. in the first provisional government. By the way, Elise was named minister of population.
Is cultural whiteness possible without ethnic whiteness?
Now, this is the point where this book gets really dicey. One of the questions this story implies without directly asking is how intertwined are culture and ethnicity.
It directly acknowledges that ethnically non-white people can be culturally white, which seriously is one of the most inclusive ideas that you can express. You of different background can join our tribe and become part of our society. Not just live among us, but really become one of us.
The Camp of the Saints is not … some screed proclaiming an inherent genetic superiority of European peoples. But it also, when taken altogether, implies that white culture is impossible without a critical mass of ethnically white people.
Is that really the case? Setting aside whatever our particular ideological alignments demand, we honestly don’t know.
The example of Japan suggests yes, they have an orderly, prosperous society, that high trust thing. Again, the Japanese might be whiter than we are in that cultural sense. How much of that is due to cultural exchange is open for vehement argument, but they have a good thing going there and absolutely rank high in the functional society scale.
On the other hand, the entire experience of postcolonialism suggests no. The British, the French, the Dutch left and things just ran down. There comes a point when it can’t all be blamed on a history of exploitation and racism. And we’re well past that point.
And it’s not just a question of how big the cities are or how bright the skyline shines at night. China has built some damn impressive cities in a massive economy over the last few decades. Unquestionably one of the great civilizations both today and historically. But at least today, it’s a low trust society.
Trust is vital to cultural whiteness:
I’m reminded of a conversation from many many years ago with one of my economics professors originally from China about doing business there. Basically that in the west we start with the assumption that the other party is legit and operating in good faith and we lose trust if they lie if they just seem shifty or they fail to deliver as promised. In China, it works the other way. Trust has to be built up from nothing. And since both parties expect the other to cheat them in some way, both are looking for ways to cut corners. …
A low trust baseline radically affects every level of social and economic interactions. It’s not just about convenience or business deals. It’s the foundation of how people interact with each other. Do you help a stranger change a flat tire? Do you spot a co-worker for lunch if they’ve lost their wallet? Can you have something delivered to your house and not have it stolen by porch pirates? What do you assume about the people that you encounter throughout the day? What do you assume they assume about you?
The story talks some about the new regime built on a brotherhood of mankind, the end of racism achieved by subjugating the whites, but it’s also a story about rapidly transitioning to a low trust society. Corruption and decay follows. …
Trust is necessary for color-blindness:
Incidentally, it seems likely that a high trust society is a necessary precondition for a non-racist society. Otherwise, race is just another in the long list of reasons to assume the worst of strangers.
Anyone who honestly thinks of themselves as anti-racist should be among the staunchest defenders of white culture, if for no other reason that no one else cares about not being racist….
The stupid woke left:
Overall, The Camp of the Saints is an unflattering portrayal of everyone it turns an eye toward, but it’s mostly an indictment of the irrational self-loathing that was really taking hold in the Western world at the time and has just festered since.
It takes on the lunacy of the whole movement that professes to be for alleviating poverty, fighting racism, giving the people a voice, and then directs all its attacks on the civilization that has done far more in service of those ideas than any other.
And it warns that we must temper compassion with a hard edge of realism… It assumes that if the West falls, the entire world suffers, and if history and the state of the world is any indication, it’s not wrong. …
Some thoughts on immigration:
No country has to let anyone in. It would be perfectly within their sovereign rights for any nation, whether France or China or Eritrea, to say, “Piss off. If you weren’t born here, you can’t live here.”
Just as it’s reasonable to be selective about who is let in, diversity is not our strength. Our strength is in coming together around the things we have in common. Western cultures have gotten rather good at finding those things, of integrating immigrants into the wider culture and value system.
Recolonization:
But with some people, they’re just isn’t enough to build on. Charity comes with a cost and it has to be balanced. Of course, you can argue that there’s a moral duty to help to provide an opportunity for a better life. But if you take that tack, none of the arguments for large-scale immigration from the third world — you know, fleeing from war, religious persecution, economic opportunity, lack of infrastructure, healthcare, education in their home countries — all of these could be addressed more effectively, more extensively, and more long-lasting, and with fewer downsides in the home countries with some form of recolonization. Make the places they’re running from like the places that they’re running to, save them the trip.
Yet, the activists go into a tizzy, if you say so. I don’t think it would be a good idea. It wouldn’t be worth the blood and treasure, and I want no part of it. But it would do everything that the migrants-welcome crowd claims to stand for and do it better, revealing some insincerity, or at least severe naivety in their stated reasons.
Being for or against ethnic whiteness is racist, but favoring cultural whiteness is not. The left likes to obscure this point and call everyone else “racists” — but what would they know, they voted for that most racist of proposals, The Voice.









